before we start, so you were coming on this question what you made earlier? ambition versus first F&B? so my question was what were you most do you want to focus on in the beginning? yes we will put more focus based on the manner of the customer but still what is your idea like what does he wants? we are looking at the viewing, the step change tracking, search, indexing, 

making it easier to start based on standards and that's the thing that engineers are doing themselves and that can be the thing that we captured. currently we are working on features, not like what we use right, it can be more than we've got it like change tracking, 

we change tracking should be part of who drawing in other sense but that's a change tracking, the other thing is drawing from the directly on the bottom. 

design reviews can code for the multiplications and then you can track what the evolution of the model looks like but again the design review is the main module and change tracking should be available there. change tracking can also be also used in drawing and you will be drawing with it. now we are saying that change tracking in itself can only be a module, it needs to be part of multiple other modules but what modules are there. I mean from technology point of view it's a different technology, change tracking. you can have design review without change tracking. it's very difficult to build technology I think for a comprehensive change tracking. 

so that's why I see that separate. 

but other modules would be like okay design review, tracking analysis, these two, nine worlds, 

drawing design review okay, prime analysis, drawing creation, collaboration, collaboration as well, okay now we'll talk about what you yes, collaboration, but collaboration can also be part of our drawing review, the collaboration you work on the far itself, 

what do you have in the how do you find collaboration? 

it's like sharing your model like Google Drive but for CAD models. 

you must work with me over it. yes, I'm doing it. I'm 8 minutes. me too. it's going over time. I guess. but at least. 

so you can invite someone. do they have collaboration? no. 

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okay okay. so recommending and discussing inside the cat part. 

you have one thing. something, then you can share more to a link by the way. More comparison, yes. More than the bottom end as you open through different, to my creative, I'm gonna compare with other different stuff. The most important word you would say about painting is, it's very difficult. It's the best I've ever done. The water is a bad, normal creation. More than the bottom end. It's a mess that's going to be known for anything, there's a really great shadow of us. We do need connective. You need to decide whether you want to just go wide connective, creation, indoor, library, or you can only create by connecting with other people. You can just free-char connective. You can just free-char connective. If you go to a big company and you say that we have a tool that can also be focused on world creation, there will be no way we have to work with that. This angle is not going to help us sell a lot of things. Having some basic regard is fine, but just a verification. I'm working with conjunction word and you could ask me like, can I want to make changes after the review? If it says that the radius should be less or more, and I make this one change exactly. The full tool, one of the points I was talking about that I was switching back and forth. The vision of work, the vision of the work, I don't know what to do. These are all from all of the perspective, but I think electrical will be nice if we can spend some time from electrical design as well. I like a bigger part, in aerospace for sure. Separate department, I will be denied completely from engineering. I don't know if I don't have it all in all. If you are listening down then I'm saying this down. I'm not going to start focusing on it. I'm going to do the right part. Okay. I'm going to put in electrical design. There is one thing called the wiring. How the wires are placed inside of a mechanical part. The mechanical part. So it's not exactly like what is in the circuit? Sure. How the movement is done. That one being done by the mechanical people. How they move. 

Basically how they are out there? They are out there. Now, it was almost a bird's eye. 

Integrations. Connectors. But the user can create a connector. No, no, no. We create connectors to transfer. Can that be a product as well? We create connectors to extract or share the data between an XR and traffic actor. Good connector. That's an application. Not a module. 

It's like rules, extractor, rules, maker. If I already have a set of documents, technical standards, and I can adjust them, I can fill structured rules that I can then use it to wrap it up for any application. For any other module, we have. We can generate what you just to manage rules. Just to start. Create rules. Instead of us making all the rules, we also give them the ability that they can make their own rules through their documents. Update rules or create rules. 

Design rules, I guess. More like rule created. Or rule master, I don't know. Design rules created, right? Design can be design rules, can be any kind of rule. What are the lines? I'm mentioning over the EQ I was beginning and I want to modify my part. Then you cannot modify something that watered into the system. You can use them in any module, or most modules, to adjust the design. What are the options for? To separate them. To create a result. Search. Parts are. It can be a module. It can be a part. You can search it in the right way. Basically, when a part is ingested, you analyze the part and you just name the part and then give it some description based on all the modules. But it's a call in the call in writing. So, do you think it's an easy thing for a company? I want to use index ones. Okay, then you can use all separately. Parts search. Yeah? If part search, even part search, you have like a lot of small parts. And you can begin next. It doesn't exist in the 3DX or DZR. Oh, it doesn't. I think the same is separate. It's not that good. It's easy to make. I don't know why. Parts are the big modules. Let's be able to do everything. We have to check what modules are going to be from it and what will be some kind of setting or something. I don't know about it. Parts search. 

Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. Parts search. All of them probably would have their own UI as well. As well. I want to get shared. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you think workflows is a good product as well? What? Work flows. Creating a channel. Yeah. Yeah. I just have to create one for them. Will that be another product? It has to be operation. I think they are automating them. Yeah. It will be good to create a customer. But I am not inclined towards this visual interface mostly. I would like to note blockbase interface. Yeah. For I don't know. I'm only text. This file is text. But you have to visualize this ensemble. Yeah. I don't know how I would always say it. I don't like that any interface. I hate it. You like it? I don't hate it. I don't hate it. But I think workflow is by definition. That's the only way you do it. Yeah. There is your workflow. I hate scene in workflow. Yeah. But there is other elegant approach to it. I don't know why I don't text. I don't know why I don't text. Visualization is more appealing. How there is appealing but also easier to grasp. So it takes you up to read the list. But visuals you just have to take a glance at it. You can understand it. And also like the decisions and the distance important to see there are glance view. How creative representation of pictorial representation is much more clear. It's very, I think it's also very time consuming. Yeah. There are templates. There are templates. You can create a kind of a rare compressor. You can use Shad scene interface. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. What is it? Okay. Okay. But that comes in the automation right? Yeah. For the first order connection. Yeah. Then where that also grow into simulation integration. to simulation integration. India, what is longer or are you as easy actually? Yeah actually. Yes, suppose processing is multi-zero. What is very much simulation? Simulation. And since integration or post processing, quite a lot easier. But you have to have a set complete. You should do the heavy lifting in the beginning. Now, I think it can be awkward, you see. The model creation, work Asian analysis. All of it. You know that's right on the word discussing about CAD. Don't make such a simulation. We have to name it differently for simulation. 

I think from money point of view, DP-tuning and cleanup, I'm set up and matching. If we can automate that, that can really bring up a lot of money. You see, it'll work right up. The meaning of the model, the finding contact, matching it. But can really help people to elect it. What would that be before you have retortable approaches? Possible solutions for you to reach. To reach like visual and then ask, you see the directory model said, oh, okay, they're closed. This is the capital kingdom. What do you think? Come there, let's contact. Come there, contact. This is a solid body with estimations, such as that it should be as a shell, what you want, shell or solid, and it should be a shell. Just like it asks, it would draw the corrects everything. It's asking you but like, what would it be? It cannot define something, then it just tells you, okay, can you find it yourself? Do you want this to be a little bit solution or analytical and more curated solution? What does that mean? That means we create mathematical method to understand the geometry of all mathematical methods. That is a big thing. Rules are a big thing. You have to create good, good skill files or just like we are doing for the FN. No, what I was saying is, they featuring, you know what fillets. You want to take out all the fillets. So if you have the PRT file, you will definitely can see the part, go up to it, and then programmatically just, is it able to use the visual library? Yeah, it libraries. You don't need it. I'm not talking about it. You can just access through connect open. Just read the part of the history and then disable our suppressor. Yeah, that's what I have in my rules. For me, AI is just the corner. Yeah, it is the corner. Agent and corner and vision. We just keep doing tasks, but the tasks are going to code. What the code is calling a mathematical function. But the changing of fillet, is done through a mathematical function. 

I think the connecting of fillet is done through like a scan. Not like a vision library. Yeah. What do you just can't? Scan of what? Like, the video is doing right now, which I'm, doing mathematical scan with a font. You can be up to my video, you can be up to detect whether the phase or the plot. But you can also train the AI, like, you should go back and train back to the like, one cloud network to see like, okay, fix the fillet. And also the time to load the electrical source. You create it. And then you can open your character file, and you set the library and you can try to detect the fillet. Oh, yeah. The experimental mathematical value actually comes from doing that. A slow-pop look at it. Yeah. I think simulation something harder, that is actually, so we can't even do it earlier, but the new two more, the new two more, can bring the test, visibility or money. I know something like all my default can match the whole thing, and set the burden thing up. So it gets like a lot of length ensures, or like, people who are doing electrical terminal health cells, actually CFP, they create cleaning up the model. A lot. And then you can see that we can automate that. That fillet will bring a lot of money. I think if you have a good preview showing, D featuring and meshing, you'll be contacted right away. So this is something. D featuring, you're going to understand, we can make it, I can see some steps that we can take to create it, but meshing is quite tricky. For simple models, it's just stuff. But we can also complete at 60 words and of the meshing. We don't know that's a complete everything. Yeah, but that's a problem already, even a few months ago, because single click now, auto fixing the atomizers, we are reaching at 70-80%. Rest of the 20% is where, we can show the value. The EM is really even more, models and click, like every actual shape, more different. You can specify what the EM is, a CNC part. You can do this, we'll do all of that. So it's less restrictive. But the EM is like, you may be doing stress analysis, but whether it has stress analysis, look a battery pack, or like a chair, or a car, they require their own individual solutions to record it. What? What's the shape of the power determines, the meshing technology that won't be working with? What kind of machine technology? First, need to extract the shell. And if it's a shell, it's a machine like that. If you're a battery pack, then cell and solid, plastics can be kept, but solid, and then you're composing that shell, so you need to, you have a different precision hierarchy for this part. But this is, technique machine is quite decent. Not decent, but solvers are able to reach the similar accuracy with both deads and also box. Also X. It's more X. Yeah, I use the only X. Yeah, you have to check that. We've had I come from the back of the old radio, you should know it's dead. Yeah, but solvers are more robust. I did comparison between 10 and 10 effects, and also Cartesian-ish. Cartesian is gold standard, of course, and all three of them resulted in the same result. And it wasn't a simple task. CFTFVM is able to know it, and FVM is able to know it. Solvers are very more robust, so we don't need to worry about, if you want beautiful meshes, then we need to go with Cartesian or pieces for the mes. But, for me has a lot of advantages as well. It's not just buzzword. It's very good with neighboring cells, very low, and it has a more, talking more FVM perspective, and the intro and out, the flux calculation is quite simple. So, yes, I mean, we need to focus on not just the field, but just a specific problem. It was around, when people are looking for fatigas. So, fatigas, people are approaching scenario, if you guys can offer fatigas, to calculate the fatigas of the part, the big light cycle. Understanders, understanders are there, but you still have to prepare them. You might be prepared to measure, analyze it, compare it, understanders, not, but it's not a difficult method, but it's something that's used quite in the industry or not. I think you showed that. So, I think that these kind of applications can be focused on a very small, okay, we are doing good to do fatigas, or CNC machinery, or very cleverly, and it's like very focused, physical sticks, to my trees, in an envelop, and then your agent can do everything, you just load the part, and it can land all the steps, machine, cleaning, so on, this is how I think you need to start, as I mentioned. Kind of broad, okay, machine, careability, okay. But, if I personally feel, it's a feature that's easier to automate, then, then you can't model it. Maybe you put it like, no more about it, I don't know, but I feel like it's more, scripting, really, standard, standard, standard, standard, which parts more creativity, and, and so on, visual, visual, visual intelligence. Mm-hmm. That's whoops I was thinking by the way. Not a copy-tauldin role one. You have to look at the whole evidence, using all the evidence. Mm-hmm. I can't think of it. Nice. What was I, 11 modules, I know, with the mesmerical discuss. Nice. What was I, 11 modules, I know, with the mesmerical discuss. Design review, goi-analysis, goi-creation, collaboration, working-compatteration, working-creation, eye-mortification, lepti-design, rules-creation, work-compatteration, work-compatteration, whatever they call it, part-search, work-close, simulation. Mm-hmm. Mission is very good. It's the exact, it's just for it, it's like, a place where, mm-hmm. But this will be extended, how the card is expanded, someone might be able to office-magnet, why don't the office connect there? I don't know if that's just your module, but office is breaking up to have like, a, a, for a portable time, I would rather want to integrate office. This, add-leaver-office to the no-go-e, add-leaver-office-ad-leaver, PowerPoint, or Excel. Yeah. Leaver-writer and leaver- review-on-machial, and how to open office. Mm-hmm. We've got a stop- I don't know, document-spanage, document-spanage-connector. Mm-hmm. Portable-sinter. How do we connect with the document-sue-sinter? Not just my-for-the-loss-its-of-the-f-e-e-f. What do you mean by that? Exporting itself. Yeah, you know, export-sensitivity-ad-ide-dispos-in-assets-one-reported to our one-former. Yeah. You can do that. We can do that, but I do like that also needs like a proper module-tortual, you know? Yeah. Exporting. Exporting now. We can use your- we can use your company. We can upload to a three-kilometer and then we can understand, we can't wait and then and start producing. Exporting. Exporting. Yeah, reporting now. So, we can send a quote-it. We can be web-based reporting, talking with support-in. 

But honestly, 

I think the settings of this tool that we have should have an option to give some templates. And the chat-based interface should be able to create a quote in whatever format. Yeah. It's one of our- I think Excel is not a problem. Power-1 is not easy. But it is an interface of- it's easy. Does it need to be for a funder? Are you sorry, it has to be the one to capture it? 

I know that you can- if people already have an SOC subscription, you can use Copa- to link. Yeah. And then use Copa- to create a quote-it. But then here, I'm offering our tool that you can just use your code. I mean, it doesn't have to be a returner writing. Sure. So. 

Then we have to have a subscription to another office. Oh, you have a library? Creating PpTX? I can write it in here. Yeah. But integrating and viewing the PpTX? Oh. In the interface? I don't need to read all this. Or maybe, decorate a query or financial query. Yeah. And export it as a- Yeah. I mean, the plugins are not a problem. Problem or the quality of the output. Quality can definitely be based on the templates. So I think the IO from the company will be vegan their rules, SOPs and templates. Once we get these three things, we'll have a curated tool developed or adapted to their documentation. And their SOPs and their templates. So, the model reporting that we are creating, they'll follow the templates. And they'll follow their SOPs. And then whatever geometry that is being generated or modified, it will have the rules back up from their initial integration. If there is any update, it follows downstream. Very little practice. You may have a fundamental ground truth right from the beginning. And everything downstream follow the same rules. If you want to overwrite something, you may overwrite. I don't know what voice would be a separate thing. What voice and what. What I would record, record without a detector in mind that a group command can be uninitiated to voice. Yeah, it's from people yes or no. Yes, yes. Yeah, it captures the approach. Yeah, it could be. But I don't know exactly how this program works. I've not used it. But you can see which tools are from the ground up. By turning the voice and some play with the detector. I don't get the problem or the thing. What giving voice. If I say conduct design review, I can say it is sort of this type of thing. You know, and when it's done, it can ask me for the fact that I can do it. It does in all of the things right. Yeah, the different thing. It's something like an architecture, architecture, everything. Yeah, yeah. But that was your building. I don't know how it works. And how can you make the function more susceptible? I think that would be more gimmicky and people just prefer to click. Yeah, but it can be a good. So management people like it. Yeah. Management people love these things. But I would call it as a module then. Okay. Feature. When is architecture like when you are? When ideally I should have done it already. And in the code to see how the code can be optimized for whatever. But if you are integrating walls and it would be more issues about if you are constantly recording, you'll have to have a button. If you have a button to record, then why not just click on conduct design review button. Yeah, voice for me is like a more interaction mode. You interact it so you like the way they are showing you. You know, set up a mouse. Show you something. And you said, oh no, don't do this like a radiator. And then it rotates. Yeah, rotate more. It rotates. And okay, now I see this. Can you change or can you show me what this? Can you show me the cross section? Can you show me the mass of the parts? So like, and this is very layered. Like, your voice is transparent. And then that transportation is used by AI to generate code. It's like a pipeline. And you're typing it out. Yeah, you use a word. This is like this one, my point. Interactive or interaction mode. Yeah, yeah. Um... Share module collaboration will have to make sure collaboration mode will have to be... And will all of this be the fact that many hours can work? Because... Yeah. And we have to have connectors based on the software the company already has subscription to. And then install connectors and then use... Yeah. 

Okay, so 12 things I have in front of me right now. Huge list. This question is where... What can we deliver if you want to release the product? What point do we start? Because now the time we think we have, just like, polished them. Because I need you to have... Yeah. Can you give me a score out of 10? I would say design review for CNC is probably... 6 out of 10 for injection molding is also 6 out of 10. And the product in that not focused. So... For CNC out, injection molding. Yeah. Collaboration is part of our teneties like we have not... Commenting is there. But we have not worked on the architecture of sharing the mold with other people who are inviting them. They are generally solved problems but they are... I don't know, like a first-rate chain intensive. I would say 4 out of 10 is 5 out of 10. But I would say 4 out of 10 is 5 out of 10. But I would say 4 out of 10 is 5 out of 10. But I would say 4 out of 10 is 5 out of 10. I would say 4 out of 10 is 4 out of 10. And I would say 4 out of 10 is 4 out of 10. And drawing creation is 1 out of 10. Search. Yeah, search. Like, I tested it that it works. You can use it in more details by the part. But the pipeline is not there. Process is 10 search. I would say 2 out of 10. 2 out of 10 is 2 out of 10. 2 out of 10 is 2 out of 10. And the parts are better than the noise creation. Yeah, because in a concept it is validated search technology as well. I think the noise creation is more different than the architecture. What is the scoyotal image? No, it is validated. So, complexity or maybe I had 4 out of 10. Okay. What is the word creation and the wordication? No. Modification 1 out of 10. And I tried it. It can work for simple things. But I stopped working on it. Because it is very complicated. More than the boundary? More than the boundary? No. Next we will have 0. No, 1 boundary is 0. Because we have not yet completed the AI. Sure. Modification 1 out of 10. 

Rule editing I have. You can edit the rules now. That you want to analyze it. But you cannot generate them. That is also not difficult. So you can, you want to like rule when you can already say like 3 out of 10. But you might rule out it SOP and templates as well. Okay, then not. Because then you make a number of modules right at hand on the thing. No. No, 1 on 10 and we call it as. Yeah, 1 on 10. 

Model display. Complex model display. It should be a model module. Because we need a problem in SCK for that. But. Because that's a module like oh you I can also look at here for a second on the next part. Because it's like proper module. But just a view. Yeah. Yeah, just for everything. If you cannot even lower your part inside and you know what I mean. But the part you already can is already being done with design reviews and no part. You can just run the review on step five. So you can use a port right now. But you can also run it on 15 year files. You can also run it on nx files. So it works fine. 

What are you running in there? You can call it. 

You don't know like except call cad SDK basically. Cadngestion cad as standard cadngestion cad SDK. It allows you to work with different formats of cad files. But you think there's a lot of AI and all of them all involved. Token usage is very high. You have to keep that in mind as well. I will say you will also apply for open AI setup to with setup. So I will give you three credits. You have to qualify. But first thing you need to do is make a big more and more visibility. So if I look at the scoring, I will be given different things. Design review, going in all this is, and collaboration. Or before it's three things we get focused on. Unless it's a customer say that I want to be a lecturer, is I? Design review, collaboration. Design review, drawing analysis, and collaboration. I would also like part search for parts group and I have right now. It's easy to get to it. It's like technology there. You can see to plug it in and plug it in. Okay, let's do the fourth. Yeah, well. So the reason I was also giving this code because I wanted us to also focus on something in parallel. Why we are trying to ask companies what they want. We should also have a vision that we will focus on these four word use. In the thing that we release about it. When we are done with these four, we can release about it. For example, or three or three, but not even four to be honest. So collaboration is something that I think also it's not difficult. It's like building Google Drive or Google Doc. Like there's one guy in an event he asked me, if we support solid works parts, and he told me that he worked with the manufacturers. He sent me three X-Fives in AutoCAD. And a manufacturing company has solid works. And we have to exchange three-five different tools. So if our tool could do that, that would be useful. So that's like a very simple thing that you can import apart. But by morning and sharing and doing a lot of things. It's like company talk to me. But this we can launch. Okay. Right now it's if we can launch. Designed a good bug analysis for collaboration with Mark Church. Yeah. Or things. Parks I've been launched publicly. I think. I think it will be copied. Let's see. I don't know why it's still working. There has to be. Okay. Now coming back to your question in the beginning, ambition versus MVP. This sort of starts with some ideas. Ambition is all these 30 things. What we have right now. Priorities are these four. We will just move a little bit left. XYZ depending on what the customer is. The last one for the company. If I make sense that they need to find creation first. And we go to the migration. You can see there. It's okay. Broly now exactly. No, I will see for like three four hours. That's okay. We'll be able to do it. Yeah. Now we are pretty much coming towards the part. Now we have covered more topics. So just lay there. Oil work. Okay. So this discussion was basically on product technical vision. Ambition, I think this is good for now. I mean, if you really want to nut out and manufacturing. CNC. I don't think it's worth a reason. The description is only about. We can review on the CNC. So my next question. I favor for certain. G10. I don't know. If all the manufacturer is part of this. How's the MC? For the machine. Can. Can. Can. Yeah. But what do. What is the module? I'm taking on. I'm just taking the modules that come into my head now. I'm not doing the modules. But what is the module doing? It's writing the code for us. It's similar. You can generate the code and an exit can show you how it works. The tool. You need to select the machine on the next. I'm going to write the code. I'm going to write the code. 

G. G. What do you call the name? G. G. G. Okay. Guys, please. I'll be up here. Just use the transfer to data. Yeah. And then. We do it with the. At might miss. Or T and stuff. And then what do we pick up again? Going to the rest of this. We get some cast to also speak. And we are going to. Okay. What time lines to do. What. We talked about. We talked more. Because the next topic is exactly like this. Planning and up going. My. Last time. Exactly. And then pricing. Financial predictions. Website. CLM. Solid. Solid. Comparative. I don't know how to understand you. Starting with solid tomorrow. And then. And then. And then. And then pricing. And then we are looking over the mph. Right fund. Sway. As well. Stopping. Stopping. Yeah. W- The email.